Les Patriotes de 1837\@1838
 
 DOCUMENT 
Lettres à divers correspondants. Louis-Joseph Papineau à ?, [septembre 1848], My application fo...
Depuis le 29 janvier 2026

page 2 / 2

less the unjust and uncalled for interference betwixt the Government and myself of the representative of Nicolet.

I rejoice that our correspondence is brought to light though it had been more straight forward and regular, if useful, that it should be so that the Government had taken the lead in the matter. If there are conflicting views between them and me, they have ample means to expose their views without the uncalled for aid of any one beside themselves.

The error in their letter of 25th August 1848, is to alledge that a mistake in a matter of account, could so be misinterpreted as to destroy the debt which a subject may have against the Government, by the mere assertion when he has been paid only a portion of his claim, that it has been by «an amicable arrangement on the part of the Government and the Parliament». Defending my rights against such a pretension, I defend the rights of all who are or my become creditors of the Government.

There was neither in the Government nor in the Parliament, nor with me, any bargaining for an «Amicable arrangement» I did not then as I do not now, and as I hope I shall never do, ask a favour from any man or set of men for anything done by me in public life.

By the form of my claim in 1846, by the letter and spirit of the message which followed, by the terms of the unanimous vote of this House it is plain that there was in none of those parties, the most distant idea of an amicable arrangement as to the amount of a debt, «that is due in point of law for which if the House concurs in this opinion, the Government accedes to Mr. Papineau's application». There is on the contrary an honest and solemn acknowledgment that the claim was to be settled as between debtor and creditor. Therefore the accidental error cannot be invoked as exonerating the Government when it is subsequently discovered, from its [ ] to make good the mistake of its one of agents on the one hand, can ignorance at the time that a mistake had taken place be invoked against me when it is subsequently found out.

The Government was most evidently under an erroneous impression that an amicable arrangement had taken place when they wrote thus «from these considerations you will perceive that the deduction proposed by you in your letter cannot take place, and that the ballance in your hands will have to be paid to the public treasury».

On any insistence on the part of Government to receive the sum I have in hand so much smaller than the one which they owe me; I have been and am ready to pay it. But when I knew that they had in hand a large unsettled ballance due to me, and when their letter proved so clearly that they had not attentively looked to the subject, that on reconsideration they could easily find out the error and that when found out they could not with justice refrain from acknowledging it and repairing it, I could not doubt but that they would write to me, before bringing any claim, charge, complaint against me. The moment they had done it, I had answered Mr. La Fontaine by his proper attention to the public accounts was the first who from his seat in the House gave warning, that a ballance was due to me, let us then look to those accounts in order to strike correctly that ballance, so that you shall pay it if I am the creditor, or I pay it if you are the creditor. That was the plain and just course to be adopted by any impartial Government.

What was not then my surprise to see the interference of one who could not learn by regular and honorable means of information, that there had been any communication between the Government and myself. Speaking of this topic to him, and not to me, had been an indiscretion, a breach of confidence on the subject of the deliberations of the Executive Council, which I dare not impute to any of its members, yet it cannot have leaked out of their minutes or their rooms but by censurable means. I think that the Government had better consulted their rights and duties had shewn more of self respect, if they had stated, to any prying individual at all times when any difference of opinion may exist between us and a debtor or a creditor of Government, to determine it is for us.

_____________

[1] Plus précisément le 27 mars 1838, date effective de la suspension de la constitution de 1791. CP.

[2] Voir cette lettre à Papineau par le secrétaire R.B. Sullivan, au nom du gouvernement, datée du 25 août 1848. ANQQ (copie).

[3] Le Dr Thomas Fortier (1796-1876), élu député de Nicolet en 1848. Réformiste. DPQ.

[4] Voir la lettre du 25 août 1848 de R.B. Sullivan à Papineau.... 

page 2 / 2

Consulté 89 fois depuis le    MOD  

 

Abréviations



(B) (M) (S) (dans les notes) Baptême, Mariage, Sépulture

AF Aegidius Fauteux, Les Patriotes de 1837-1838 (1950)

ANC Archives nationales du Canada

ANQH Archives nationales du Québec à Hull

ANQM Archives nationales du Québec à Montréal

ANQQ Archives nationales du Québec à Québec

AO Archives d'Ontario

AQHP Association québécoise d'histoire politique

ASN Archives du Séminaire de Nicolet

ASQ Archives du Séminaire de Québec

ASSH Archives du Séminaire de Saint-Hyacinthe

ASTR Archives du Séminaire de Trois-Rivières

BAC Bibliothèque et Archives du Canada

BAnQ Bibliothèque et archives nationale du Québec

BH Beaulieu, André et Jean Hamelin, dir, La presse québécoise des origines à nos jours, Québec, Presses de l'Université Laval, 1973-1990, 10v

BHP Bulletin d'histoire politique

BMS Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures

BRH Bulletin des recherches historiques.

CAN Le Canadien (Québec)

CANJ Canadian Antiquarian and Numismatic Journal

CB Catalogue of Books being the complete Library of late Hon L-J Papineau vendus lors d'un encan public en mars 1922, par les frères Fraser, [Montréal, 1922]

CHRISTIE William Christie, History of the Late Province of Lower Canada (Québec, 1841)



CP Chronologie parlementaire, tome 1 1791-1867 (doc inédit), Service de recherche, Bibliothèque de l'Assemblée nationale, décembre 1995

CRLG Centre de recherche Lionel-Groulx

DAF Dictionnaire de l'ancienne langue françoise et de tous ses dialectes du IXe au XVe siècle, par Frédéric Godefroy, 10 v, Paris, 1881-1902

DBC Dictionnaire biographique du Canada, 14 v, Québec, PUL; Toronto, UTP

DC Dictionnaire biographique du clergé canadien-français, par J-B-A Allaire; Les anciens; Montréal, Imprimerie de l'École Catholique des Sourds-Muets, 1910

DD Dictionnaire de droit québécois et canadien, avec lexique anglais-français, par Hubert Reid, 2e tirage, revu et corrigé, Montréal, Wilson & Lafleur ltée, 1996

DNB Dictionary of National Biography, London, Smith, Elder, & Co, 1885-1900

DPQ Dictionnaire des parlementaires du Québec, 1792-1992, PUL, 1993

ED Encyclopaedic Dictionary, edited by Robert Hunter, 4 v, Philadelphia, Syndicate Publishing Company, 1894

GPF Glossaire du parler français au Canada, Québec, PUL, 1968 [1930]

ICMH Institut canadien de microreproductions historiques

JCABC Journal de la Chambre d'Assemblée du Bas-Canada

JFL Journal d'un Fils de la Liberté, 1838-1855, par Amédée Papineau, Sillery, Septentrion, 1998

JLP Journal (inédit) de Lactance Papineau ANQQ, P 417/6

MD Lovell's Montreal Directory



ICMH Institut canadien de microreproductions historiques

JCABC Journal de la Chambre d'Assemblée du Bas-Canada

JFL Journal d'un Fils de la Liberté, 1838-1855, par Amédée Papineau, Sillery, Septentrion, 1998

JLP Journal (inédit) de Lactance Papineau ANQQ, P 417/6

L'AMI L'ami du peuple, de l'ordre et des lois (Montréal)

LIB Le Libéral (Québec)

MC Morning Courrier (Montréal)

MD Lovell's Montreal Directory

MD The Macmillan Dictionary of Canadian Biography, Toronto, Macmillan of Canada, 1985 [1978]

MG 24 B125 Comité de correspondance de Montréal

MGZ Montreal Gazette

MIN La Minerve (Montréal)

MS Mississiquoi Standard (Frelighburg)

MTL HERALD Montreal Herald

MQD Mackay's Quebec Directory

OED The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed, prepared by JA Simpson and ESC Weiner, 20 v, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1989

RHAF Revue d'histoire de l'Amérique française

SHM Société historique de Montréal 

MQD Mackay's Quebec Directory

OED The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed,  20 v, Clarendon Press, 1989

QG Quebec Gazette

QM Quebec Mercury

RG. Register Group. Archives publiques du Canada (Ottawa)

SJ Stanstead Journal (Stanstead)

VIND The Canadian Vindicator (Montréal)


Consultez les journaux d'époque conservés à la BAnQ

L'Ami du peuple, de l'ordre et des lois, 1832-1840 (Montréal)
Le Canadien, 1806-1909 (Québec)
Le Courier de Québec, 1807-1808
L'Écho du pays, 1832-1836 (Saint-Charles-sur Richelieu)
Le Fantasque, 1837-1849 (Québec)
La Gazette des Trois-Rivières, 1817-1822
Le Glaneur, 1836-1837 (Saint-Charles-sur-Richelieu)
Le Libéral / The Liberal, 1837 (Québec)
La Minerve, 1826-1899 (Montréal)
Le Pays, 1852-1869 (Montréal)
Le Populaire, 1837-1838 (Montréal)
Quebec Mercury, 1805-1903
La Quotidienne, 1837-1838 (Montréal)
Le Spectateur canadien 1813-1829 (Montréal)
The Vindicator, 1828-1837 (Montréal)

Nos partenaires

  

  

Le matériel sur ce site est soit original, soit libre de droit. Vous êtes invités à l'utiliser 
à condition d'en déclarer la provenance. © 1996-2026 Les Patriotes de 1837@1838 glaporte@1837.qc.ca